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  • Right now I can buy a new German produced small diesel that gets almost 45 mpg ----BUT sorry can%26#039;t bring it here it won%26#039;t pass the particulate emission tests. (although it is used extensively in Europe-- and is VERY clean running.)

    Would I buy a fully electric car right now----- ??? No way.

    The Prius is fully $5+ thousand more than say a regular Honda Civic--- I would have sold the Civic before I PAID for the difference in gasoline costs--

    Honda Civic $15,100
    MPG 25-36

    Prius- $21,500
    48-45 from EPA site

    I am a commuter and drive 15,000 miles per year. I get 30 mpg in Civic

    I will spend about $2000 on gas per year in the Civic at $4.00 per gallon--- so my gas is essentially FREE for the first 3 years-- (assuming ZERO recharging cost for the Prius!)
  • Obviously working to solve the problem than pointlessly debating what has already become evident is going to yield at least some results.

    There are those out there who intentionally try to muddle the issue for their own private gains, others are simply misguided and or contrarian for their own emotional boost.

    I try to ignore those whom are stubborn, educate those who are sincerely willing to listen, and carry on the work of bettering the world.

    In terms of energy, the environment, global warming, etc, the answers are simple. First and foremost cut back on consumption. Second recycle whatever you can. Third work to push environmental legislation. Fourth, support various charities as organizations are theoretically more powerful and efficient than lone individuals.

    Finally except what you can%26#039;t control and enjoy God%26#039;s creation to the best of your abilities. Hopefully %26quot;Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die%26quot; will not be due to global warming.

    Humanity is at a crossroad. I chose to be one of those adding my number to reach that populous critical mass of agreement where things start to shift even regardless of corrupted governments.
  • I find that your attempt to blame SUV%26#039;s on the current energy crisis to be ridiculous. SUV%26#039;s are actually a consumer response to CAFE standards pushed by leftists and loopholes which are always present. Unintended consequences always occur yet leftist love making new laws . Environmentalists put nuclear plants in thier crosshairs a few decades ago and they crippled nuclear growth. They villainize oil production (everywhere), oil refining, and coal and natural gas and wind farms and any viable alternatives. I am sure if I searched, I could find something from most leftist who post here complaining about ExxonMobil. This isn%26#039;t done due to any truth about ExxonMobil. It is done because some people follow what fellow leftists say and leftist love to demonize ExxonMobil and Halliburton. If fellow leftist say that SUV%26#039;s are evil, then they must be evil.
  • The answer to that question lies entirely with the meaning of the word %26quot;progress.%26quot;

    Those %26quot;anti-environmentalists%26quot; you clearly have a problem with have a much different idea when they think of progress than you do. (And one can be %26quot;anti-environmentalist%26quot; without being %26quot;anti-environment,%26quot; just in case you were wondering.)

    If the idea is to get people to actually understand the true implications of human activity on the environment, then making environmentalsts actually explain themselves and account for what they say is a very good thing.

    I suggest you talk to Al Gore and get him to debate the people who disagree with him.... but he won%26#039;t do that. That%26#039;s the truth. Is telling the truth about someone %26quot;bashing%26quot; them? I don%26#039;t think so.

    Progress would be having the best sources of energy - not leaping toward second-rate solutions because people have made you unnecessarily afraid.
  • The %26quot;environment%26quot; is no excuse for socialism, which doesn%26#039;t work well no matter what the cause. I support conservation, alternative energy and the environment but some global warmers flail around about doomsday, convincing people that any sacrifice is legitimate in defense of flawed models that don%26#039;t predict anything. They should be ashamed.

    Environmentalists tarnished their own credibility with their wild unsubstantiated claims. Now they reap what they sow.

    It%26#039;s not the end of the world, it%26#039;s just the end of YOU.

    %26quot;Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron%26#039;s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.%26quot;
    --C.S. Lewis
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