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7 months ago
Wow, the level of hypocrisy is sky rocketing. Are people actually trying to say that geologist have nothing to do with climate measurements? How do you think we know the climate thousands of years ago? Do you really think %26quot;tree ring%26quot; data is the way to go? It is laughable how little most people know.[2] Speach by Bob Carter:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/new_p...
(His source for calculating the greenhouse effect, #8 is an opinion piece from FoxNews.) 100% 2 Votes
He often speaks in propaganda terms: %26quot;Hansenist alarmism,%26quot; %26quot;disease called Hansenism,%26quot; a red flag that the speaker is driven by agenda, has little or no scientific foundation to stand on, and requires the extra drama and personal attacks to attract sympathizers.
Here%26#039;s just one example that reveals his lack of understanding (or possibly intentional misrepresentation?) about the processes involved in climate:
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http://timlambert.org/category/science/b...
%26quot;The Earth’s comfortable (for us) average temperature of about 15C is maintained that way by the atmosphere. The presence of small amounts of water vapour, carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide - the “greenhouse gases” which absorb Earth’s outgoing heat radiation and re-emit some of it downwards - causes warming. Most of the total warming of 33 degrees is caused by water vapour (more than 30 degrees), carbon dioxide contributing only about 1.2 degrees worth. And of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, just 3 per cent comes from human sources, which equates to a warming effect of about four-hundredths of a degree.%26quot;
His calculation is out by a factor of twenty. Carbon dioxide contributes about 3 degrees towards the natural greenhouse effect. And over 25% of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere comes from human sources. 25% of 3 degrees is 3/4 of a degree Celsius, not four-hundredths as Carter claims. But he keeps repeating this false claim.
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Here%26#039;s where Bob gets some of his material:
%26quot;He has now posted the text of another talk where he gives a source for his bogus claim. It’s this FOXNews opinion piece by Steve Milloy.%26quot;
(Look up Steve Milloy if you%26#039;re not familiar with him... very interesting job he has.)
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%26quot;Carter’s claim that observed warming trends are caused by the Urban Heat Island effect is rubbish because satellites, boreholes, rural stations and marine measurements all show warming, but it also contradicts his claim in the same article that the warming is natural and we are now seeing cooling. Is Carter contending that the UHI effect stopped operating in 1998? And also, when it suits him he argues that 1998 should not count because it was exceptional.%26quot;
There%26#039;s a lot more discussion on Bob%26#039;s specific claims, often the same discredited theories that we see coming from places like Junkscience, here:
http://timlambert.org/category/science/b...
So to answer your question, no, given his record on science I%26#039;d have serious trouble believing a single word the guy says. 0% 0 Votes actual scientist, a geologist 0% 0 Votes
Man made global warming is a proen fact--and no amount of false claims or fake blogs like this one will change that. You even admit he%26#039;s nothing but a mouthpiece for the oil companies. 0% 0 Votes
To which I emphatically reply, no, no it doesn%26#039;t. Bob Carter may well be a brilliant marine geologist (I%26#039;ve never read any of his work), but he%26#039;s a p*ss poor climate scientist. After all, he was the genius who first thought up the fallacious, %26quot;warming stopped in 1998%26quot; garbage.
You don%26#039;t need to be a climatologist to be an expert in climate science, but you do actually need to understand the subject. Bob C. doesn%26#039;t. 0% 0 Votes
