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Is lying an acceptable strategy to advance your beliefs for or against Global Warming? This is not a rhetorical question. I have seen several people on here say things which I believe are blatant lies, and then I recently sent an email to a person on here that was using a factually incorrect argument and he/she responded %26quot;i told a lot of lies in tht... so did al gore though...%26quot;

Now, I don%26#039;t find this behavior acceptable whether you believe in global warming or not, but perhaps I%26#039;m in the minority. Do people here think it justifies lying if it advances your belief? I mean, I guess you could think it%26#039;s so important that the ends (advancing your beliefs) justifies the means (lying about things). An alternate justification might be the one I got in the email, something like %26quot;Since they%26#039;re lying I can lie too.%26quot; Is that acceptable?

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2 months ago

Interesting answers so far.

Heretic: Please let me know what you think are %26quot;numerous misstatements%26quot; in my question. I don%26#039;t have a clue what you%26#039;re referring to. If you don%26#039;t think stating them will improve your answer, feel free to email them to me.

2 months ago

dumdum: What I corrected him on was something that%26#039;s repeated on here all the time: that volcanoes give off more CO2 than humans. This is not true and I gave references for that. Anyone that wants more details can email me. I don%26#039;t think I %26quot;misused%26quot; Bob. I thought his was a very good answer, except there do seem to be a number of people that intentionally mislead, not necessarily because of incompetence. Report Abuse Well then peg we agree bec I think it is more than than incompetence. So Y did you even mention Bob if you feel as WE incl Manda, do! %26quot; As some1 else has already said, it%26#039;s easy to confuse ignorance for malice.%26quot; Report Abuse Not after what we see is a pattern of disinformation by some reported industry-paid disinformants! Report Abuse Hey peg, Again do we agree? Report Abuse I seriously doubt that any clowns on Yahoo Answers are paid by industry. One would assume that industry would come up with some more competent people to spread disinformation about global warming. Report Abuse

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  • It%26#039;s never okay to lie about this sort of thing. However, be careful about what you label as lies. As someone else has already said, it%26#039;s easy to confuse ignorance for malice.

    In matters where facts are important, I%26#039;m extremely careful to look at and evaluate lots of sources. I tend to trust most those who have the least to gain from saying what they%26#039;re saying, and who have proven track records of consistent objectivity and genuine scientific curiosity.

    For the same reasons - I was getting tired of several deniers outright lying. In this case, specifically about James Hansen. And in this very question, they continue to lie about Hansen. I guess some things never change.

    Trevor (climate scientist and probably the best answerer in YA global warming history), gave a great answer, as usual.

    In my opinion, lying is absolutely inacceptable for either side of this issue. If a proponent is caught lying, it undermines the credibility of our arguments and thus our ability to take steps to mitigate global warming. If a denier is caught lying - well, let%26#039;s just say it wouldn%26#039;t exactly be the first time, nor would it be the last bit surprising, but that doesn%26#039;t make it acceptable.

    Other than scientific evidence, the main thing seperating the proponents from the deniers is honesty. You may disagree with our scientific evidence, you may think our conclusions are %26#039;alarmist%26#039;, but proponents usually make honest claims supported by scientific evidence. More often than not, deniers make dishonest and unsubstantiated claims. Stooping to their level would do our efforts far more harm than good.
  • Excellent question - wonder what the response would be like if you reposted (edited to be more general) in philosophy.

    Personally, I think not. I do, however, sometimes truncate quotes as space here is limited. If I do, I do my best to ensure that the original meaning remains.

    But the tactic is short-term and self-defeating (kind of like being against steps to alleviate GW or its effects!):
    If someone makes a statement that is obviously false I%26#039;m going to have serious doubts about anything else they say, even if true or they make a valid point. I try to judge each response on its own merits but find myself looking at the authors more and more and going, %26quot;oh, it%26#039;s him/her again%26quot;... but then, we do that in real life as well.

    I think Bob%26#039;s response was superb and almost stopped reading right there!
  • Lying, whether because of ignorance, stupidity or malevolence, is plainly demagogic. Ad hominem arguments are not the way to make your case no matter what your position is on the issue. The people who keep citing the person rather than arguing objectively for or against their ideas or other people%26#039;s ideas is an anti-intellectual who may have a financial interest or emotional agenda. Science issues that have been politicized to the degree GW has been by Bush43 and his myrmidons is not the science I learned at MIT. All we can do is report them to YAT until they are banned because the lying and sometime rude behaviors by those bad-intentioned individuals in the GW category undermine the value of YA as a reliable source of information! Keep the faith. And Dr Hansen, as he is slandered here, is not the person I heard delivering a summary of his findings to a packed 7-9pm lecture hall at the James Baker III Institute of Public Policy at Rice 8 years ago!
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