Where was I and how did I miss this happening?
I don%26#039;t watch TV, did I miss something important?
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Actually, Nightwind, if you talk to the majority of environmentalists, their political leanings tend to favor a more libertarian/ populist/ anarchist outlook. Sure, there%26#039;s a few big government socialists, but they%26#039;re few and far between.3 months ago
Good point, Dana. I was confused about the $5 gas too, but figured they were either overstating for impact, or lived somewhere that gas is higher than where I am.3 months ago
RUK, the top quote is not from me. I%26#039;m doing what I can, and attending school to learn to do more. I haven%26#039;t invented any alge biodiesel systems, but I%26#039;ve done more than recycle a few cans.3 months ago
Mopar,Hey man, I%26#039;m with you on the aviation thing. Totally agree. Although I think it is a different byproduct of oil that fuels jets as opposed to cars. However, the %26quot;green thing%26quot; would have been to reduce consumption of fuels, regardless of refinery production. And yet average mileage of an american vehicle has decreased, while the distance between destinations has increased due to sprawls. Two decidedly un green trends, that are contributing to the increase in demand that is raising your prices.
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Uh oh... I%26#039;m getting talked about. Ok I might be a little out there, but I%26#039;m pi**ed, and the whole fuel thing is out of hand. We could have prevented it. Lets get this straight. Gas where I live is right now (Oregon) $4.00 9/10, and Diesel is $4.84. I use diesel- sorry for the brainskip (tired). However gas is not going down, and in fact it has been climbing here at more than 25 cents a week, so it won%26#039;t be long before I%26#039;m right-lol. You don%26#039;t have listen to me, or believe it, but oil is $130 a barrel, so $5 gas is coming soon. Everytime I drive by the gas station the numbers aren%26#039;t up a couple cents, but 5 to 10 cents at a time...The green way started rolling in the seventies with the EPA making impossibile rules for building new refineries in 1973. Wilderness, and Wilderness Study Areas started popping up everywhere in the West, convienently most anywhere there are minerals, or resources in 1976. And no it wasn%26#039;t all bad. We did do a few things which were good like clean up factories, rivers, started recycling, and stopped clear cut logging for the most part (I do believe in selective logging though).
I have heard all kinds of answers as to how much oil there is in ANWR, and no I don%26#039;t know, but I do know oil is there, and enough to justify the effort, and expense. This isn%26#039;t all there is either. There is a huge amount of oil shale in Wyoming, and Montana which we haven%26#039;t touched. They have said that there is enough there to last many years.There is oil in the Gulf of Mexico which is a protected site on our side of the line. Cuba went in right on the other side of the line, put in a platform, and is taking it. This is what I am talking about being stupid. WTF are we protecting? The fish live in the same water, and don%26#039;t know what boundry lines are. It%26#039;s getting taken anyway, and I am sure America would do it in a cleaner fashion, but no..we can%26#039;t go there-save the fishies...
Long story short. I am no kookier than the guy who ties himself to a bridge to make a roadblock...I%26#039;m just the other side of the coin.
Ok, I%26#039;m going to bed now, so I won%26#039;t confuse anyone else-lol. Just for kicks... The avation industry uses approx.180 million tons (45 billion gallons) of fuel a year, and I did look that up today. That can%26#039;t help.
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No we never did. The green way would have been to find alternate sources of energy and develop alternative lifestyles rather than become ever more dependent on the Arabs and Oil companies. But Americans used gas like a drug addict and we are now dependent -- and the pushers have raised their prices. This is exactly what environmentalists were trying to tell you. This idea that American can solve problems by drilling more oil is mistaken -- we have maybe a year%26#039;s worth of oil in total available in America even if we drilled everywhere. Prices are high now because we will pay any price. If you had a business and were charging $1 per widget but knew all your customers would buy just as many widgets at $1,000 wouldn%26#039;t you raise your price?
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* There is no %26quot;scientific consensus%26quot; on global warming
* Climate is always changing – with or without man
* The Medieval Warm Period was significantly warmer than temperatures today – and was a golden age for agriculture, innovation, and lifespan
* Most of Antarctica is actually getting colder
* Hurricanes are not getting worse – our tendency to build houses in their path is getting greater
* Many big businesses lobby for global warming policies that will increase their profits – and our costs
* The media only recently abandoned the %26quot;global cooling%26quot; scare
* The real agenda behind the %26quot;global warming%26quot; scare? A massive expansion of government control over the economy and our lives -
How pathetic to argue that America has a years worth of Petroleum. We have more than that in the Strategic Reserve. What passes for knowledge with the left is unfathomable to me. As a geologist, I can state that since we have other ignorant people with that mindset preventing exploration, and people like that pushing ambulance chasing lawyers after any potential environmental problem as well as other hurdles such as banning new refineries, we have a real mess on our hands. Because the world%26#039;s demand is increasing, it is a world wide shortage as well. I really wonder how these people can first try to prevent drilling in ANWR and other new reserves and then pretend it wouldn%26#039;t make any difference. It is frustrating to me.
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Who said that? Maybe they%26#039;re talking about a different country than the US? After all, we don%26#039;t have $5 gas, either.
*edit* I just saw the comment. He was definitely talking about the US, and was just exaggerating for effect with the $5 gas comment (the highest gas in the US is in SF and Chicago where it%26#039;s a bit over $4/gallon). Or maybe he%26#039;s just divorced from reality, considering that he thinks the United States has tried %26quot;the green way%26quot;.